tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post3242772236685338852..comments2023-10-28T00:40:00.696-04:00Comments on Barrel of Rum: Ranking the ACC's Coaches.....Barrel of Rumhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-36366378151572882722010-02-17T18:42:26.650-05:002010-02-17T18:42:26.650-05:00The initial post was that Cutcliffe, IMHO, is a be...The initial post was that Cutcliffe, IMHO, is a better than average coach in the ACC. The fact that you feel Nutt is a significant upgrade over Cut is a great sign for your program. What's interesting is that Tech & Ole Miss are in similar places to begin this year as programs:<br />1) Both have had a nice two year run with their new coaches but now those coaches will have higher expectations<br />2) Both coaches have so far "won with their predecessors players" & now they will face the challenge of "winning with their own guys". <br />3) Both lost a coordinator (albeit it for different reasons) & will have a new face in a significant role on the staff this Fall<br />4) as an addendum to #2 both teams lose tons of talent: Hodge, Snead, McCluster, Hardy to name a few for Ole Miss - Burnett, Morgan, Dwyer, & Thomas, & Howard for Tech.<br /><br />This year will be interesting for both programs. I agree that the loss of talent will be the biggest hurdle for both to overcome. As far as #2 I threw it in there because many people cite that argument but I think it's B.S. in this case. Both guys can recruit & coach so having "their" players shouldn't be a problem. <br /><br /> One last needle: why'd you guys bail on playing us these last two years? Can you smell what Paul Johnson's cooking??????<br /><br />-HashBarrel of Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-44579145060527299752010-02-17T17:38:19.921-05:002010-02-17T17:38:19.921-05:00To be precise and to "check your stats",...To be precise and to "check your stats", Cut was 44-29 at Ole Miss. John Vaught was 190-61-12. Vaught won just over 72% of his games. Cut won 60%. Vaught had a seven year stretch that included 6 top 10 finishes, and the seventh we finished number 11. That includes two finishes at number two in the nation and one at number three.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-31891961822942599902010-02-17T17:33:20.165-05:002010-02-17T17:33:20.165-05:00Dude... Cutcliffe wasn't even CLOSE to the win...Dude... Cutcliffe wasn't even CLOSE to the winningest coach at Ole Miss. Google Johnny Vaught.<br /><br />If your initial argument was Cutcliffe versus Orgeron, then that statement should have been made. Most Ole Miss fans would have even agreed with you to at least some extent. But you can't even begin to compare Nutt and Cutcliffe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-38821305254070834272010-02-17T17:30:14.682-05:002010-02-17T17:30:14.682-05:00The Cutt vs. Nutt Debate isn't the point. Both...The Cutt vs. Nutt Debate isn't the point. Both Coach's teams have played well above their historic averages at their last two stops, Duke and Arkansas respectably and Ole Miss. <br /><br />Cutcliffe vs. Oregeron! that's the situmacation.<br /><br />Cuttcliffe, I believe was the winningest coach in ole miss history (anyone care to check my stats go ahead), but after one loosing season he was fired and Ole Miss fans had to suffer through Ed Orgeron. A mistake the administration quickly corrected when Arkansas cut Nutt loose under similar circumstances.<br /><br />I personally route for both coaches as they both seem to do more with less, and have both been the victum of unrealistic expectations. Something which may have played into Cutt's decision not to go to Tennessee (the most unrealistic of all fans)<br /><br />FLWBarrel of Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-59243265914490889402010-02-17T16:17:26.948-05:002010-02-17T16:17:26.948-05:00If we're to be totally honest about the depart...If we're to be totally honest about the departure of Austin, I'll say that I don't think it is going to change much - and that worries me. I did not subscribe to the idea that Nutt kept a tight reign on the offense, but some things that happened this year made me question that belief. The departure of Austin really lends credence to the idea that he didn't get to do what he wanted to do. Do I have evidence of that? No. But it is sure the feeling I get. And from that, the idea that things won't change much. That also means that you're not likely to get a top-flight OC under Nutt and even if you do, it won't yield that much benefit.<br /><br />The personnel losses are going to be tougher than the loss of Austin. If we get bowl eligible (and I think we will), it will be by a small margin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-62770193508245110162010-02-17T14:19:14.538-05:002010-02-17T14:19:14.538-05:00I'll bite... How do these guys stack up again...I'll bite... How do these guys stack up against their corresponding SEC coaches?<br /><br />I'd take the top 3; particularly Johnson and Grobe, in our league over Saban or Meyer or any of the other coaches in any other conference in the country. If you base it on pure coaching ability (not ability to recruit talent, and conversely talent on the field), but ability to make a system and players win regardless.Robespierre the Slender 1https://www.blogger.com/profile/01754968659130175662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-36872880986621928862010-02-17T14:10:59.648-05:002010-02-17T14:10:59.648-05:00Patrick Willis was & is a BEAST. Certainly as...Patrick Willis was & is a BEAST. Certainly as good a college LB to come around in a long time. Always loved watching him play. Would have loved to see McCluster in Tech's offense. Would have been a perfect fit at A-back. <br />-HashBarrel of Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-13037335786384731992010-02-17T14:08:34.083-05:002010-02-17T14:08:34.083-05:00Fair enough, it was as you suggested, a loaded que...Fair enough, it was as you suggested, a loaded question. We don't take ourselves too seriously around here but we do appreciate the passion. I may have underestimated Nutt on looking back at my post. Remember, the point was comparing coaching, not overall strength of program as an earlier response suggested. That being said, Nutt has done more in his brief time at Ole Miss than Cut ever did. <br /> So here's a serious question (I assume you're an Ole Miss fan): what will the departure of Kent Austin mean for you next year? <br /> Keep bringing the heat & we appreciate the passion & discussion.<br />-HashBarrel of Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-21893632648470463622010-02-17T14:04:59.239-05:002010-02-17T14:04:59.239-05:00In fairness, I will say Cut is most likely a bette...In fairness, I will say Cut is most likely a better coach now than he was when he was fired. He was in very poor health his last couple of years in Oxford and had multiple bypass surgery the following spring. I think that played a role in his demise. Regardless of health, though, he made idiotic personnel decisions - always allowing seniority to rule over talent, ability and common sense as far as playing time went. Patrick Willis, the single-most talented LB to come through Ole Miss (and one of the best ever in the SEC) rode the pine as a sophomore behind a slow, white academy kid. He also managed to lose to Memphis with a Manning under center. So...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-5359836498205031952010-02-17T13:59:52.202-05:002010-02-17T13:59:52.202-05:00Now you're going to pass it off as a legitimat...Now you're going to pass it off as a legitimate question, and use condescension while doing so? Your question is idiotic. No football fan, looking at the results, would choose Cutcliffe over Nutt. Yet your question intimates that not only do we question the choice, but we kick ourselves in the junk for such a stupid decision. I'm glad Duke is happy with Cut. He's a good guy. I wish him the best. But you'll not catch any Ole Miss fans crying over the change.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-57178427660163061342010-02-17T13:46:58.733-05:002010-02-17T13:46:58.733-05:00I guess you guys answered my question (it was in t...I guess you guys answered my question (it was in the interrogative, gentlemen) that you much prefer Nutt to Cutcliffe. After two Cotton Bowl wins, that's certainly understandable.<br />-HashBarrel of Rumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02182361928765375469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-81248501543953209782010-02-17T13:41:51.600-05:002010-02-17T13:41:51.600-05:00Duke is the perfect place for Cutcliffe. What oth...Duke is the perfect place for Cutcliffe. What other BCS conference school can you drop a home game to 1-AA Richmond and still be considered a coaching genius?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-2097720041346239492010-02-17T13:22:16.186-05:002010-02-17T13:22:16.186-05:00Punching ourselves in the groin...for Cutcliffe? Y...Punching ourselves in the groin...for Cutcliffe? You have absolutely no business wrting on a football blog if you prefer Cutt over Nutt when it comes to coaching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8455109540491757683.post-34850213048583047552010-02-17T13:09:04.947-05:002010-02-17T13:09:04.947-05:00If you think Ole Miss fans regret firing Cutcliffe...If you think Ole Miss fans regret firing Cutcliffe, you're crazy. What a ridiculous statement. Houston Nutt can coach circles around Cut.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com